Thank you both, that was really interesting. My main takeaway was we have so much to learn and unlearn, and we need spaces to encourage just that.
On the topic of why people aren't turning up to protests, maybe it is due to the fact that we're conditioned by modern capitalism, to think about our own self interests, and to celebrate competition. To measure our success through the things we own.
We take experiences from nature, treat it as capital, with little thought. I would echo Matt's point that next to no-one in outdoor sports is really connecting with nature. We use it to create memories, and for self interest, such as physical fitness, mental health or sporting recognition. All of these ideas place us at the centre.
When we take collective action like joining a protest it's about the greater good, it's about the whole. Maybe we're just not wired to think that way anymore? And we end up thinking that it's someone else's problem.
Which with the pressures of the modern world is kind of acceptable. Time is precious, especially when loads of it is absorbed as we've become the product through our mobile phones.
That's where I see a blending of both your thoughts, as Dan says we need to become crew, and this all starts with inner reflection. I don't think we'll turn up to a protest in numbers until we've fixed ourselves a bit. Until we've started thinking of ourselves as citizens not consumers. Until we measure our worth in something other than capital. Until we've put the phone down and picked up the book.
In my view a citizen turns up, and a consumer heads to Wetherspoons.
Thanks for this Gavin, totally agree. Where I've got to over the years, to expand on your 'inner reflection' is to learn to relate differently to a planet which has always been 'more than human.'
Part of that is to learn to move back into a sacred relationship with the living Earth, to practice reverence and awe for more than human life as a core part of any meaningful shift. To fall back in love with the Earth.
There's humility and some de-centering of human exceptionalism required.
As far as we can tell looking back historically, any civilisation that didn't have a scared relationship with nature/the Earth - just didn't last that long.
And Matt's riff on water, reminded me of a common indigenous belief that one can tell the health of a society by the health of its rivers and wild waters...
We're living in a sick society. Human health and planetary health are intimately entangled.
And change can always start right now wherever one is, it's really a case of opening up to see the Earth differently - as alive and our place within it as participants (crew) and to practice new ways of showing up - reciprocity.
In my experience that's also where so much magic and possibility lies, very much at the heart of the work we are doing with Becoming Crew 🙏
Thank you both, that was really interesting. My main takeaway was we have so much to learn and unlearn, and we need spaces to encourage just that.
On the topic of why people aren't turning up to protests, maybe it is due to the fact that we're conditioned by modern capitalism, to think about our own self interests, and to celebrate competition. To measure our success through the things we own.
We take experiences from nature, treat it as capital, with little thought. I would echo Matt's point that next to no-one in outdoor sports is really connecting with nature. We use it to create memories, and for self interest, such as physical fitness, mental health or sporting recognition. All of these ideas place us at the centre.
When we take collective action like joining a protest it's about the greater good, it's about the whole. Maybe we're just not wired to think that way anymore? And we end up thinking that it's someone else's problem.
Which with the pressures of the modern world is kind of acceptable. Time is precious, especially when loads of it is absorbed as we've become the product through our mobile phones.
That's where I see a blending of both your thoughts, as Dan says we need to become crew, and this all starts with inner reflection. I don't think we'll turn up to a protest in numbers until we've fixed ourselves a bit. Until we've started thinking of ourselves as citizens not consumers. Until we measure our worth in something other than capital. Until we've put the phone down and picked up the book.
In my view a citizen turns up, and a consumer heads to Wetherspoons.
Thanks for this Gavin, totally agree. Where I've got to over the years, to expand on your 'inner reflection' is to learn to relate differently to a planet which has always been 'more than human.'
Part of that is to learn to move back into a sacred relationship with the living Earth, to practice reverence and awe for more than human life as a core part of any meaningful shift. To fall back in love with the Earth.
There's humility and some de-centering of human exceptionalism required.
As far as we can tell looking back historically, any civilisation that didn't have a scared relationship with nature/the Earth - just didn't last that long.
And Matt's riff on water, reminded me of a common indigenous belief that one can tell the health of a society by the health of its rivers and wild waters...
We're living in a sick society. Human health and planetary health are intimately entangled.
And change can always start right now wherever one is, it's really a case of opening up to see the Earth differently - as alive and our place within it as participants (crew) and to practice new ways of showing up - reciprocity.
In my experience that's also where so much magic and possibility lies, very much at the heart of the work we are doing with Becoming Crew 🙏